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Technology Working Group Minutes: August 19, 2004

Technology Working Group Minutes: August 19, 2004

August 19, 2004
9:00 A.M.


Chair Burtner called the meeting to order at 9:04 a.m.


Members Present:

Helen HallRoger BurtnerDick Bednar
Johnson LewNilo NiccolaiNorm Thorn
Robb Port Tony Anderson Paul Stover

Members Absent:

Scott Price David Bailey






Background pertaining to this meeting

At its meeting on August 2, 2004, CDCE/Tropos was designated as the finalist or preferred vendor for the implementation of the wireless network for downtown Fullerton. CDCE/Tropos was then invited to meet with the TWG on August 12, 2004, for a question and answer session regarding network throughput, number of simultaneous users that the network would support at each access point and for the system as a whole, other technical issues, and design of the captive portal. CDCE/Tropos had also been requested to discuss contract terms, but because of the numerous technical questions pertaining to the network, contract terms were not discussed. Paul Stover expressed reservations about the responses given by CDCE/Tropos and suggested that Wireless Hotspot/Firetide be invited back for further questioning regarding their network proposal. TWG members agreed, Wireless Hotspot/Firetide accepted the invitation, and the meeting was scheduled for today.

In the week prior to the meeting, Joseph Hsieh requested and was given a series of questions by Helen Hall for discussion at this meeting. Immediately prior to the meeting Roger Burtner, who had been out of town for the previous meeting, asked that Wireless Hotspot/Firetide respond to some questions that Jack Unger, consultant to the TWG, had asked in his critique of Firetide radios.

Review of Wireless Hotspot/Firetide proposal

Joseph Hsieh, Wireless Hotspot, Joann Zigler, Firetide, and Jonathan Jenn, Vernier, reviewed their original proposal to cover the downtown area with 11 Firetide single-frequency 1100R radios that would be used for internodal communication and separate YDI access points with directional antennas for client-node communication. Vernier electronics and software would be used to control the network and monitor network traffic. Jack Ungers critique was not addressed.

Near the end of the presentation, TWG members became aware that in November 2004 Firetide expected to begin deployment of their 1500R radios that communicate between nodes using 802.11a on the 5 Ghz band and from access point to client using 802.11b/g on the 2.4 Ghz frequency band. The advantage of a two-frequency radio is that it could significantly increase network throughput. Joann Zigler, Firetide, stated that Firetide would be very willing to work with the TWG to deploy the new Firetide radios in Fullerton as soon as they became available. Chair Burtner stressed the need to have a successful implementation because it would impact additional applications and other projects that the TWG might recommend going forward. Wireless Hotspot and Firetide expressed their willingness to modify the proposal to meet the desires of the TWG.

Paul Stover moved and Robb Port seconded a motion that we meet August 26, 2004, to review our selection of a vendor to install a wireless mesh network in downtown Fullerton, and if the TWG selects Wireless Hotspot/Firetide as the vendor, that they deploy their latest radios. The motion carried.

Norm Thorn is interested in visiting Culver City before the next TWG meeting in order to gain some experience with the Wireless Hotspot/Firetide installation which consists of about four access points in that city.

Note: Much technical information was discussed during this meeting. Most of it has not been included in these minutes, but the meeting was recorded and the discussion has been transcribed.


  • Review selection of vendor



    There being no further business, Chair Burtner asked for a motion to adjourn the meeting. The motion was unanimously approved by the members present. The meeting adjourned at 10:29 am.